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background checks. 9 out of ten want men want background checks for all americans. nine out of ten want background checks for all gun buyers. nine out of ten white americans want background checks on all guy buyers and nine out of ten black americans want gun checks and finally, nine out of ten latinos want background checks on gun buyers. the number to call is 202-224-3121, the united states congress. 202-224-3121. do it. do it for those lost kids up in newtown. thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, what is going on with republicans and women? rnc chair reince priebus just gave us his rebranding plan. he wanted us to downgrade social
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issues that drove so many voters away. so how is he doing it? by launching a full scale attack on planned parenthood. in an op-ed published in the right-wing blog, he attacked the media and planned parenthood worker after she was asked a misleading question about babies born after botched abortions. he claims that, quote, voters must ask the pressing questions. do these democrats also believe a newborn has no rights? do they endorse. infantacide. wow. this is a strange way to broaden the republican appeal. and have you seen the newly rebranded republican party? have you seen what they are doing in the states to women's
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rights? in alabama, the republican legislature just passed regulations on abortion clinics that will further curtail the right to choose. abortion rights' activists in alabama took to the streets to protest the law that should shut all five remaining clinics down. >> they say we want government out of our personal affairs. i don't know if there's anything more personal than my body. i have a real each with the majority of the senate and the house members being male wanting to dictate what we as females are going to have to abide by when it comes down to my personal body. >> abortion is legal. it's the law of the land. unless you live in a state where you can't get one. so how is that for change? how is that for being enclues
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s inclusive? trying to go back to the drawing board. joining me is linda coleman who we gist sjust saw at that prote. and irin. thank you for both being here tonight. governor, let me start with you. what's your response and how are you going to fight back since clearly you were at the protest making a strong statement? >> al, i think it's a sad day for the state of alabama. we are celebrating 50 years of success and momentum with the civil rights act and alabama has come a long way from standing in the door as far as barriers to a whole lot of things and depressing people and
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disenfranchising people. it's a barrier to women of denying our rights and that's what civil rights was all about. it's about opening the doors. it was about diversity and accepting people who were different. it was about access and what this bill does and goes to the governor now that he will probably sign is further deny women rights, hard-earned rights that they have had to choose, in particular, about the regulation of their body and their health. we are not going to take this lying down. in the state of alabama, we have about 12.5% population for women elected to the house and the senate total. there are five women out of 35 in the senate. we have -- if pushed to really encourage more women to run because the decision is not going to change. >> yeah. >> the climate is not going to change until we get more women in the statehouse. >> irin, you know, she's right. regardless of how i would feel personally or you, it's a question of people having the
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right over their own decisions and their own body. but this is not just an alabama problem. in kansas, they are pushing a radical personhood bill that would define life as beginning at conception. in missouri, a bill was introduced saying doctors can deny emergency contraception to rape victims. in arkansas, they just passed a law banning abortion at 12 weeks. and in north dakota, the state approved a ban on abortion as early as six weeks. it's the strictest abortion law in the nation. this is state by state all over the country, while the republicans are talking about rebranding. >> well, we're going to have a situation in some states, other states in which it's going to become ever more difficult and there's lots of ways in which this is a civil rights issue. it's right for a woman to have
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autonomy over her body and what happens when you drive clinics out of business and put regulations, who does that fall on? the women with the least means, the least access and least ability to travel. unfortunately, low income and women you have color. when these legislatures, very small groups of very motivated americans who are angry and who would like to impose their will through state legislatures in the state house, when they exact their will on women's rights to decision making, the women who suffer are women who cannot just drive to another state. >> where they are trying to twist this in alabama. she said it was all about
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protecting and she says, i'm quoting this truly is a women's rights bill. it protects the right of a woman having an abortion to have it in a safe and healthy environment. senator, this is about protecting women's rights? >> it's about denying women's rights. it's about denying access. the bill at a whole, if you read it, has nothing to do with safety. when it comes down to the health of women. most of those regulations are in there and it's an attempt to close down all of the clinics that deal with abortions of reproductive rights. so if you look at that bill and read it for yourself, a lot of it is that kind of safety, tending to reclassify, reproductive centers as ambulatory centers, which it is not. so when i offer amendments that particularly dealt with the safety of women or
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grandfatheri grandfathering those clinics that are inspected every year, to give them time to correct -- not necessarily correct but to come into compliance, they want to go ahead and close the door to those clinics. >> and they are using things, irin, like widening the hallways and the doctor has to have an association with a hospital and then telling hospitals that don't take any abortion doctors. so it's really a trap. i mean, they are setting traps and they are doing it, as i said in other states, different ways saying with different results and now you have unconstitutional and unenforceable near total criminal bans on abortion. and the states are trying to circumvent the supreme court by attacking on a state level. how do you fight this, irin? >> well, i think it's really important to note that abortion
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is safe and legal and it is safe when it is legal. so when you drive clinics out of business, which is the intent of these laws, the end effect is that women become desperate and women who don't have other options could resort to unsafe means. it's really important to point out that abortion is safer than giving birth and that there are lots of great practitioners out there providing women to the business and when you drive them out of business you lead to desperate straits and that's not what we want to see. >> senator, aside from what i said earlier, regardless of one's personal beliefs, people have to fight for everyone's right and people have the right to deal with their own choices. but aside from that, the politics of this is striking to he many. you're an elected official. doesn't the republicans get that women voted in huge numbers against them last year because
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they are denying women's rights? i mean, when you look at the results of the last election, a few months ago in november and the vote of women, this is -- and i'm talking nationally here. this is state by state like they are either in denial or so hostile that they don't care how women politically respond to be denied their rights. >> well, this is an issue that cuts across boundaries as far as political parties. we had at that rally not only democratic women and republican women as well speaking out about this bill. it's about a disenfranchisement on women and denying women of choice. so when it comes down to making those kinds of decisions that affect a woman and a woman's health, if you look at that, the majority of the decisions are being made by men who dominate the state legislature. in alabama, women make up over 66% of the voting population yet
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the laws that impact and affect our access to health or regulation of our body is being made primarily by men and it shocked me -- it shouldn't be a shock but there are no republican women and so and how a woman's body is psychological, emotional action and they make those kinds of decisions and take that to full and it's about abortion. >> irin, when you look at this,
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in light of the chairman of the rnc priebus saying let's rebrand after his autopsy report, how far does the state efforts like alabama and the other states i mentioned, how far does that throw them back and can impact the midterm elections that they keep going in this direction in a state by state basis, the republican party i'm talking about? >> well, i think the republican party is overplaying its hand. you saw last year that people stood up to defend planned parenthood and now he's going out and trashing it. >> he wrote the op-ed himself. >> yes. he wants to talk about practically nonexistent issues about later abortions which are very rare. he wants to stigmatized women who have abortions and they are trying to change the fact that they don't want women to have contraception and have access to health care. that's what people responded to last year, the contempt behind
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these attitudes and i have seen nothing to suggest that they have changed that contempt that underlies a lot of these positions. >> real contentment, almost arrogant. linda and irin, thank you. >> thank you. on the road again. president obama's new plan for taking back the house. so nancy pelosi can be boss again. plus, the texas murder mystery. who is behind the murders of two prosecutors? is a white supremacist group leaked. and we have the story of the day. 45 years after his death, we have martin luther king, junior. his son joins us live. stay with us. if rz welcome to the new new york state. what's the "new" in the new new york? a new property tax cap...
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the state of texas is on alert. investigators are trying to figure out who was behind the murder of two prosecutors killed within two months. today, nearly 2,000 people attended the memorial service for the latest victims killed over the weekend, kaufman county district attorney mike mcclellamcclella mcclelland and his loving wife cynthia. governor perry paid tribute to their life today.
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>> people choose this line of work because they believe in making a better community, a safer community. i've often said that a life given to public service is a life well-lived and mike and cynthia gave their all in the service of their community. >> at a press conference with local and federal investigation officials, governor perry announced the reward for convictions have been raised to $200,000. officials say the investigation continues and is too early to say who is responsible. authorities have no hard leads, only theories. they are investigating ties to a mexican cartel and a local gang and looking at former employees. they are also investigating this group, the aryan brotherhood of texas, a white supremist gang.
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joining me now from kaufman county, texas, is nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez. gabs, thanks for being here tonight. >> reporter: good to be here, al. >> do authorities think there could be a connection with the texas aryan brotherhood? what are they saying? >> reporter: sources tell nbc right now that there is no clear suspect but they are investigating several theories at this point and our sources are downplaying but not dismissing the connection with the aryan brotherhood of texas. it could be the work of the cartel. investigators are now focusing on and closely looking at local cases that the d.a.'s office may have prosecuted and they are looking into whether this may
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have been the work of a lone wolf, possibly with a grudge. again, authorities are saying very little publicly about the case and the aryan brotherhood of texas did get some attention earlier in the week but, again, authorities so far have found no direct link to the aryan brotherhood of texas. >> gabe, why did they even go down that lane in the first place? why would the aryan brotherhood even be suspected to possibly be involved? tell us why. >> reporter: that is a very good question. what happened is back in december indites have come down in houston that have i ctaken o part of the aryan brotherhood leadership. back when the assistant district
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attorney mark hasse was killed two months ago, there was a suspicion that the aryan brotherhood may have been involved in that case. a little while after that murder in an interview, d.a. mike mcclelland said that kaufman county had put dents in the aryan brotherhood of texas. there are a lot of questions here. one of the reasons that theory is being disspelled is no one can quite figure out why kaufman county would be targeted by the aryan brotherhood of texas when other counties had bigger roles. >> governor perry was asked if the authorities know of a connection between the prosecutors' murders and here's what he had to say. >> are these two cases connected? have you been given any information about that? >> i do not have any indication or information. again, i think it's a bit premature as we're in the early stages of this investigation
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with mike and cynthia relative to mr. hasse's. >> now, when he -- governor perry is responding to two cases, he's talking about mcclelland, the district attorney and the assistant be district attorney hasse. he's saying there is no direct evidence that these two cases are connected but, again, you're saying that the authorities are not officially saying that they are disconnecting yet or not connecting. is that right? >> reporter: right. and, al, what governor perry was saying was basically a repetition of what we've been hearing from local and federal authorities, that these murders have not officials been linked yet, there's not been any physical evidence to link them. hasse was reportedly killed with a revolver whereas mcclelland was killed with an assault weapon. the fact is it would be quite a
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coincidence coincidence two prosecutors killed within two months and today when they were rolling out the reward, they are listed up together. $200,000 for any information that can lead to the suspect in this case. if you talk to people in kaufman county, many residents feel it would be quite a coincidence. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for you're time. you're doing good work down there. we'll stay on this story. thank you. >> reporter: thank you, al. coming up, nancy pelosi with the speaker's gavel? we'll tell you how president obama is taking action. plus, the growing outrage over a college coach caught on tape. you will not believe what some right-wing talkers are saying. stay with us. lindsey! i just discovered these new triscuit
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why would you draw the line at ten? the problem is, once you drop that limit, it's kind of like marriage when you say it's not a man and a woman anymore then why not have three men and one woman or four women and one man and -- or why not, you know, somebody has a love for an animal? >> why would you ever make that leap? i mean, it's so ridiculous, it's almost funny. actually, here's funny. >> he's right. once you start putting limits on magazine size, where does it stop? 9, 11? blah, blah, blah, orgy in the barn. >> what is it with you people and the [ bleep ]? i don't understand how your mind always go there. >> but they still haven't figured out that comments like this make them the stupid party
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the president hit the campaign trail to raise money for the 2014 midterm elections. and you'll never believe what
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happened. the rnc attacked him for it. they put out a new ad accusing him of cozying up to the wealthy. that's right, the same guy they accused of being a socialist is too cozy with big money but of course the right has never been able to get their story straight with this president. is he a thug or is he weak? these guys haven't made up their minds. >> it's a bad way to start off looking like you're some kind of political thug at the white house. >> i see a weak president and he's literally being run over because the world sees him as weak. >> he's a street thug. he's a community organizer. that's what you are. he's a street thug. >> president obama is a president so weak that he makes jimmy carter look strong. >> funny. i don't know too many weak thugs. and then there's the question of if he's acting like a king or if
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he just doesn't lead at all. >> i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex sort of developing. >> you need a president who will lead and the president is not leading. >> obama overplayed his hand and he thinks somebody made him king. >> the president isn't leading. >> he isn't leading. no, wait, he's a king. the gop has thrown everything they can at this president, even when it doesn't make sense. but here's a little secret. it's not working. the president is sitting on a 57% approval rating. that's pretty much exactly what it was the last time we checked last year. and the same as it was the year before. maybe the gop should lay off the attacks. after all, they are not working and they really don't make much sense. joining me now are ryan grim and angela rye. thank you both for coming on this show. >> thank you, rev.
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>> angela, let me start with you. why is it that the right wing seems all over the place in abeing taing this president? >> well, i think you can attest that the fact that the right wing is all over the place more than where they are with the president. we can't seem to have them rely on gun control, on women's rights, reproduction rights, on gay marriage. you can go down a laundry list of things even including outreach to people of color. you have an representative that says, it's okay. i'm sorry that i called latinos wetbacks but that was okay back in my day. and so there's no reason -- there's no question as to why they are all over the place without the president. >> ryan, last night at a fundraiser, the president told the crowd, quote, i would be dishonest if i didn't say that it would be a whole lot easier to govern if i had nancy pelosi as speaker. clearly he's now scheduled that he's going out to help the democrats win, back the house in
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the midterm elections next year. the republicans are already bizarre as i've shown some examples. i suppose by this time next year they'll be outright delirious if he's on the road trying to win the house back. >> true. they hate when he goes out on the campaign trail for any purpose. when he ran for re-election, they were consistently criticizing him for campaigning while there was whatever manufactured crisis was going on in washington at the time, whether it's debt ceiling or sequester. whatever was happening, it's a presidential election. he's going to campaign. and then when he would go out and campaign on different eaches whe legislation, mitch mcconnell will come out and say that he's out campaigning and he should come back and lead. they don't like when he gets out in the court at all but it shouldn't be a kind of radical
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statement to say that, yes, it would be easier for him to govern if democrats controlled congress and the only way he's going to get to put into place the final legacy is if democrats control congress in the last two years. >> angela, we're seeing that he's scheduled more events than he did midterm in his first term in 2009 and 2010. does that indicate that he thinks he can win back the house with the democrats and do you think that he can win the house with the democrats? >> there's no question about it. the president has been deliberate about who he endorses. they are for sure winners. the fact that he's saying, there are 17 seats that we have to pick up. if i get on the campaign trail now, do eight of it now, we can start making sure that folks know what it means to have a cooperative congress. so this really is less about political stunts. it's more about what makes good
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sense to make sure we move the agenda forward. >> ryan, when you look the a the fact that the republicans have repeatedly snubbed them, top gop leaders turn down the invitation to attend the screening of "lincoln," speaker boehner has turned down an invite to every state dinner. boehner also refused to have his picture taken with the president at the last year holiday party and the house gop rebuffed the president's request to address a joint congress asking him to pick another date. so no matter what he has done or what we he extended himself or tried to reach out, they tried to snub him, they tried to call him names, even if it contradicted another name they called him. i mean, this is an exercise in political absurdity. >> right. he's hoping and what he said in his -- at the fund-raiser is
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that he hopes that they will back off that absurdity, at least on eachissues relating to immigration. it's in their best interest to go along with immigration reform. hopefully he thinks he can get something done on that. and there are a lot of republicans who would like to see something done on gun control for the simple reason that they've gone out on a limb now and if something doesn't get done, they might get primaried back at home. so there are sonl interesting incentives where you might see immigration and gun control legislation get done. but you're right, on everything else, they don't want to watch a film with this guy. >> when he talks about that might get primaried, it appears that the tea party in the outs.
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today the membership page for the caucus is defunct. they haven't met since july of 2012. will this make it easier for the president to get things done with the republicans with the weakening of the tea party? >> i think with or without the tea party he's got a better shot. the tea party oshriginated in 20 when folks talked about the toxic rhetoric. nobody has time for that anymore. that is not a policy or position. with or without the tea party that rhetoric is not going to work. >> you know, ryan, there's an expression that you say don't talk about it, be about it. and one of the things a lot of people took note is that when the president announced that he would take a 5% pay cut to show solidarity with federal workers hit by the automatic budget cuts and "the washington post" says
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it might be a strong political move. let me quote "the washington post." by taking a volunteer cut in his own pay, no matter the size or amount, president obama is forcing the sequester back into the news and back to people's minds at least for a day or two. >> i think it could backfire, though, because what the president wants the sequester to be appealed. he thinks the cuts are too draconian and by taking his own pay cut it sort of implies, hey, look, we're all going to take these cuts. it sort of implants the sequester as not something that is going to be repealed. >> angela, you're nodding your head. you don't agree with that? >> i don't agree with that. it wasn't just the president but it was attorney general holder and secretary hagel and secretary kerry. i think what they are saying is
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these are tough but we don't want the hardworking americans that are in these regular government jobs to be suffering the most from the sequester. >> what it has not been is any republicans. i want to see when they are going to take a cut because they caused the cuts. don't talk about it. be about it. angela, you quote jay-z. ryan grim and angela rye, thank you for your time this evening. >> thank you, rev. ahead, first lady michelle obama carries out a five-year tradition today. plus, the shocking tape of a high school basketball coach abusing players. why i'm calling a personal foul on some right wingers tonight. and 45 years ago tonight, martin luther king was assassinated. his son joins us and how the dream lives on. stay with us.
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it's the caught on tape moment that has outraged the country. rutgers university men's basketball coach mike rice fired after this video surfaced on espn. you can see the coach abusing his players, screaming, throwing balls, grabbing these young men and verbally abusing them with slurs. so the coach is gone and today
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the assistant coach quit but the questions are just starting. the video was given to rutgers officials last fall. the university president was told about it and didn't look at it until this week. why? these are kids, young men playing college sports at a state university, a taxpayer-funded university. we can all agree, this is wrong, right? well, not everyone. >> this is an example of our culture in free fall and i'm saying because he got fired, not because of what he did. look, there's no question he should never use gay slurs, that's against all slurs. i'm not sure that's what got him fired. i think going after one of the kids is what got him fired. listen, it's time to toughen up. i talk about the woosification of america, of american. >> what? but i'm sure it was just one right wing talker with a crazy
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opinion like that. right? >> i'm watching this and i'm thinking, i don't like it. he kicked one player there. on the other hand, you know what, i kind of like old fashion discipline. to become that politically incorrect? these are adults and they don't want to play with that team, they can leave. maybe we need a little more discipline in society. i turned out okay. >> well, that's highly debatable. what is not debatable is this kind of abuse has no place at our universities. it's a personal foul. get your heads in the game. asional have constipation,
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ushered in a new civil rights for african-americans and all americans, beginning with 1955, the 1963 march on washington where he delivered his "i have a dream" speech and the 1965 march for voting rights in selma, alabama. more than four decades later, the legacy of dr. king's work is all around us. most notably in the white house. and his son is carrying on his work. today, martin luther king iii marched side by side the sanitation workers which he was doing when he was killed. joining me is dr. king's eldest son, martin luther king iii. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rev. >> thank you for being here to mark the day that your father gave his life for us. you were in memphis this morning
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visiting the striking garbage workers. ironically, your father was there 45 years ago for the same union. did you think about that and the irony of that 45 years later, they are striking again and you are there as the one holding your father's legacy? >> i certainly did. more than anything else i thought about it would be wonderful to come together and say we've made these great strides but the tragedy is we're still in a struggle for working families all across america and memphis and across america. it's very sad that people that were put in office, public officials, elected officials who could not have been there had it not been for what dad and his team did are the ones standing in the way now we can and we must do better. >> when you say elected officials, you mean some black elected officials who would not have been in office had it --
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>> that's it exactly. >> that's right. again, now, of course, it was a heavy experience for me. i lost a father and my mom lost her husband. but the fact is, he stood up for injustice and righteousness and truth and today 45 years now at this point we should be further ahead. >> right. now, one of the things we're dealing with is not only further ahead but even fighting to sustain what he was able to achieve for us. you're in town for national network tonight and our speaker is the attorney general of the united states, eric holder. he was going to speak about voting rights. >> listen to what he said. >> you know, people, it's the
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civil rights movement and i am bound and determined not to let that be unravelled while i am attorney general. >> you and i were in the courtroom while they argued the voting rights act this session, if they don't return it, we're going to have to fight just like your father did in '65. >> you know, that's another -- it should be a frustration for everybody. voting should be easier. it should be access for everybody. it's tragic that section 5 of the preclearance for vision is now being talked about to be removed from the law of the land and that means we'll have to go back and contact congress. >> i know you're all over the world, trying to keep the peace initiatives of your mother and father, trying to keep the nonviolent movement going with new energy. but this was your father and you and your wife has his only
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grandchild. i remember when they opened the martin luther king memorial in washington last year, you brought your daughter, you and your wife alone, and she said something that was so 20utouchi to you and your wife that i never forgot. i want people to remember this is dr. king's grandchild. >> the question was, how would you respond to this memorial? my daughter, when we first got there seeing the memorial, she said, 3 years old, i'm not going to cry. i said, what did she say? she said it again, i'm not going to cry and she looked up at the memorial and she said, this is awesome. now i'm saying -- i would have looked at it and said, that's nice. run around. >> 3 years old. >> my daughter is really feeling what this memorial represents. >> and i think -- >> it's the same thing that happened to i and andre when we first came, mom, this is going to be awesome. this is going to be

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